How can this guy have experiences of realization and not be the least 
bit aware of his addiction to being a dishonest, pompous, self-
important asshole?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This subtle, celestial stuff is absolutely,
> > > > > incredibly, charming, fascinating, mind-blowing when
> > > > > it opens-up, but  it really has nothing to do with
> > > > > Realization. Like the TM-siddhis, the value is in the
> > > > > practice of samayama, not in the attainment of a
> > > > > particular siddhi itself. That really doesn't mean
> > > > > anything in the context of Realization. Talking to the
> > > > > diety of your mantra is like talking to the bus driver
> > > > > who's taking you someplace. Fascinating guy, but
> > > > > nothing to do with your destination.
> > > 
> > > I've always felt that a fascination with subtle
> > > phenomena like this was just an indication of
> > > lack of experiences of realization. If one never
> > > gets to one's destination, one gets fascinated 
> > > by the silly tourist attractions along the way.
> > 
> > Its also a matter of perspective. Prior to Realization, I was 
> > mostly an unhappy person- yep I admit it, after nearly thirty 
> > years of meditation...So when these special experiences occurred, 
> > I clung to them to boost my faith, and as life preservers in a 
> > raging sea of my own making. 
> 
> Yup.  Exactly what I had in mind.
> 
> > Then when I turned inside out, the experiences that were so 
> > special in an isolated and linear way, were still special, 
> > only now on the backdrop of everyday magnificence.
> 
> Well said.  For me, after the first experiences
> of realization, any fascination I'd had with 
> "subtle phenomena" such as have been mentioned
> here lately lost all appeal.  It was like 
> realizing that I'd been suckered into thinking 
> the flame of one puny little match was a great
> source of light, when the sun had been shining
> all along.
>






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