--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
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> > > > The loyalty stuff has always bothered me. It's nagged at me 
> > > > for a long time. When I saw how Maharishi treated those 
> > > > closest to him, (Charlie, Jerry, etc...) I knew something 
> > > > was 'rotten in Denmark'. Its a big cognitive disonance for 
> > > > a 'spiritual movement'.
> > > 
> > > What's a bit odd about the current discussion of the
> > > TMO's perceived lack of spirituality is how judgmental
> > > it is.  Aren't being spiritual and being judgmental
> > > mutually contradictory?
> > 
> > There is a big difference between 'judgemental' and the ability to
> > discriminate. I've always thought that it is an important ethical 
> > and spiritual principle not to use someone's ignorance against 
> > them. (You can see a lot of that in the current TMO.) A 
> > corrallary of love thy neighbor as thyself, I guess. The new age 
> > axiom about being non-judgemental kill's the basic ability of the 
> > mind to make evolutionary decisions. That's what it's there for...
> 
> I don't think it's just a "new age" axiom.  I think
> it's pretty traditional observation where enlightenment
> is concerned.
> 
> In any case, of course you have to discriminate and
> make evolutionary decisions; that isn't what I mean
> by "judgmentalism."  You can say, e.g., I choose to
> do THIS rather than THAT, without saying, They're
> selfish and unspiritual because they choose to do THAT
> rather than THIS (implied: And my choice shows I'm
> selfless and spiritually superior).  And you can
> certainly also attempt to persuade them to stop doing
> THAT and start doing THIS without being judgmental.

I should add that I can be at least as judgmental as
the next guy (as I just demonstrated by being judgmental
about judgmentalism!).  It's just that I don't believe
that when I look at what someone else is doing and label
it as unspiritual, it somehow shows I'm more spiritual
than they are.







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