On Jan 9, 2006, at 4:29 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 2:41 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 1:51 PM, authfriend wrote:
It is also similar in some ways to the chapter in Steve Brigg's book (which I believe Rick had posted a while back) where M. deliberately tries to test him, or so he claims. He fails the test because he has not surrendered to everything his guru utters.
I was left wondering if this is the similar style of testing
used by dictators and the like.
Guilt by association is always a useful propaganda technique. But as I suspect you know, Vaj, "surrendering to the master" is not exactly an approach MMY invented; in fact, I believe it could even be said to be traditional.
Actually I was thinking of Mahesh's appreciation of Hitler
Uh-huh. Or that just occurred to you as a possible way to wiggle out of the guilt-by-association fallacy.
I believe this is where Godwin's law comes into play...
Perhaps, in your imagination.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
In any case, would you care to cite that "appreciation" for us, with sources and the details of what he is supposed to have said?
They've been shared here.
I didn't ask whether they'd been "shared here." I asked if you'd care to cite the "appreciation" for us, with sources and the details of what he is supposed to have said.
I gather the answer is no.
The answer is more like 'I don't keep every post I've read here on hand, ready for retrieval.' Basically he had a real appreciation for Hitler, to the extent that he had a student read him all of Mein Kampf. The other person who told me this shared it off list, and that is his story to tell, not mine. I was hoping Rick would get back to us on it, because frankly it was one of the most bizarre thing I had ever heard. "Just when you thought it couldn't get any weirder". It does. Then all this world government and reports from inside people that he is interested in world domination? Sometime a cigar IS a cigar and megalomaniac IS a megalomaniac.
Rick was looking into it further as he had some sources on his Hitler admiration.
, the
Purushas who dressed up with swastikas on, etc. One has to wonder how far the fascination he has on this goes. Given that his
latest trend is towards schemes of world domination, creating his own countries, political parties, money-- it's a damn good question
to think about.
Not. Hard to conceive of anything more apples and oranges.
Hearing Brigg's story about the globe he keeps in his main
chamber one really wonders. Shades of Ian Flemming...
Oddly enough, you don't seem to have quoted, or responded to, the other points I made about the surrender-to-the-master approach, nor did you comment on the one point you *did* quote.
Wonder why not?
No need to respond. It's fairly common in many guru trips. I assume most are familiar with the guru-slave thing.
You mean the traditional approach to enlightenment I mentioned?
That's the approach that caused you to wonder if it was "the similar style of testing used by dictators and the like," the one Krishna describes in the Gita, for example? No, it's not unusual to hear reports of paranoid people in high places "testing" those close to them, not out of some desire to do them better, but because they're frickin' paranoid megalomaniacs...
I mean you can't help but put 2 & 2 together here:
-history of extreme, "it's the CIA" paranoia to people who are not CIA. Paranoid ideation. -develops plans for his own world government with his own self-proclaimed name/title as part of it. -develops his own monetary system. -talks about tearing down cities and then buying the new ones off of him. -gloats over a globe of the planet in his forest lair like someone from a James Bond movie...A BAD James Bond movie with Roger Moore. -don't touch me. No not even the feet, ok? -surrounds himself with mad scientists. -begins setting up millionaires as kings in his government, i.e. acting republican. -Bevan ...no just kidding, I like Bevan.
etc.
Where better to place a pathology than in the eastern slavishness of an extreme guru/disciple relationship?
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