--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > <snip> > > Is Awakening something to be "believed in"? Does what > > you believe in have anything to do with becoming > > enlightened? > > Yes, you must absolutely believe in the fact that you can and will > gain enlightenment, no matter what happens. Be one pointed on the > Goal.
That doesn't seem to have been the context, however. I was responding to this from you: That is why he now proclaims that liberation, enlightenment, > Brahman, identifying with the Self, Awakening, etc. are not useful > terms, labels or concepts. Every attempt to have him state what he > *does* believe in just results in his challenging the perception of > the person asking. (Your first sentence isn't what he actually *said*, but that's a different issue.) You appeared to be suggesting that he should hold beliefs about the *nature* of Awakening, not that he should believe such a thing was possible. <snip> > > > OK akashanon, you, unlike all of the spiritual teachers in the > > > world, have declared the very concept of Awakening as invalid; > that > > > there can be no legitimate transition between ignorance and > > > Awakening, that all we can apparently hope for is some small, > > > incremental experiences of expanding our awareness, maybe, and > that > > > no phase transition occurs between one state, ignorance, and > > > liberation, enlightenment, Brahman, identifying with the Self, > > > Awakening, etc. > > > > Boy, that isn't what I understand him to be saying. > > > Si? Que? I don't recognize what you write above as being any of the points he made. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
