--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I can't see that "waking state candy ass" is a > > > description of anything, > > > > Sure it is. Look at how Ramana and Nisgardatta and > > many other masters treat people that approach them > > whinning for a coherent, waking state explanation of > > Self. They just smash their " waking state candy ass" > > approach to facilitate the direct experience of Self > > rather than talking about it endlessly. They're doing > > them a wonderful favor. > > I agree with you completely. I think feste's just > hung up on the word 'ass' because of your spelling. > Where I'm from, the term is spelled 'candyass,' all > as one word, and has nothing to do with 'ass' or > 'asses,' merely with being a wuss. > > What I think we're poking fun at is the folks who > seem to believe that the universe owes them a > description of enlightenment that makes sense to > them from the state of ignorance. > > In my experience, the goal of such people seems to > be to convince themselves that they "understand" > enlightenment. Also in my experience, they prefer > to believe that they "understand" it rather than > to experience it, because to do that would require > that they drop the self. It's the self, after all, > that seeks to "understand." > > To me, all of this connotes a pretty wussy > approach to realization, so I still think that > "waking state candyass" pretty much nails it. :-) >
So, although I think the candy ass thing is a great job aid personally, almost sutra like in its ability to turn the mind away from the illusion of waking state, everyone begins the journey by 'understanding' enlightenment. In other words, building a conceptual model of that which they are striving for. We all did it. The mistake comes when we try to hold such a model intact and live Realization at the same time. Something feels horribly wrong to us, and yet we persist in forcing the model to work. Not to worry, though. As long as we continue to transcend, we continue to create pressure along our internal aptly named faultline, until our crust ruptures, and life is once again seen for what it Is. And if not in this life, then in another. No big deal. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
