--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; Boomeritis Hinduism; Pseudo- > advaita > > Answers from biologist and physicist Ken Wilber. > > http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6 > > The first question has to do directly with the relation of modern > quantum physics and spirituality. In effect, does physics prove God, > does the Tao find proof in quantum realities? > > Answer: "Categorically not. I don't know more confusion in the last > thirty years than has come from quantum physics...." > > Ken goes on to outline the three major confusions that have dominated > the popular (mis)understanding of the relationship of physics and > mysticism. > > #1: Your consciousness does not create electrons. Unlike Newtonian > physics, which can predict the location of large objects moving at > slow speeds, quantum physics only offers a probability wave in which > a given particle, like an electron, should show up. But here's the > funny thing: it is only at the moment that one makes the measurement > that the electron actually does "show up." Certain writers and > theorists have thus suggested that human intentionality actually > creates reality on a quantum level. The most popular version of this > idea can be found in the movie What the Bleep Do We Know?!, in which > we "qwaff" reality into existence. > > Ken suggests this is both bad physics and bad mysticism. As for the > former, in his book, Quantum Questions, Ken compiled the original > writings of the 13 most important founders of modern quantum and > relativistic physics, to explore their understanding of the > relationship of physics and mysticism. Without exception, each one of > them believed that modern physics does NOT prove spiritual realities > in any fashion. And yet each of them was a mystic, not because of > physics, but in spite of it. By pushing to the outer limits of their > discipline, a feat which requires true genius, they found themselves > face to face with those realities that physics categorically could > not explain. > > Likewise, none of those founders of modern physics believed that the > act of consciousness was responsible for creating particles at the > quantum level. David Bohm did not believe that, Schroedinger did not > believe that, Heisenberg did not believe that. That belief requires > the enormous self-infatuation and narcissism, or "boomeritis," of the > post-modern ego, and Ken goes into the possible psychology behind all > of that. > > #2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not unmanifest Spirit. The > immediate problem with the notion that certain "unmanifest" or > "vacuum" quantum realities give rise to the manifest world, and that > the quantum vacuum is Spirit, is that it immediately presupposes a > radically divided Spirit or Ultimate. There is Spirit "over here," > manifestation "over there," and it's only through these quantum > vacuum potentials that Spirit actualizes manifestation—with Spirit > set apart from manifestation.>>>
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