On Jan 23, 2006, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote:
Well, first, we'd need to know what MMY *actually* said, rather than your version of it.
Second, what Wilber was debunking was the idea of creating *electrons* (by which I assume he meant elementary particles generally), not molecules. Molecules are two steps beyond elementary particles: they're arrangements of atoms, which are in turn arrangements of particles.
Well you have to understand what he's referring to here Judy--it's that the measurement/observation process at a quantum level affects the material world. It's this idea he's debunking using this example, that we modify reality, physical reality, with observation. This idea is not restricted to the discussion of the "gap" between the physical and "unified field" but also the TMSP where attention is allegedly applied to get the unified field to manifest something--to somehow modify reality. The Maharishi Effect might be a good example.
Again, we'd have to know exactly what MMY said, but it isn't inconceivable he meant the molecules were built from particles that were already available.
Finally, at what point did MMY use this notion as a "sales ploy" for TM? Quantum physics is constantly used as a marketing ploy for the TMO. It's been used for the siddhis, the doshas, TM, the TMSP, higher states of consciousness, world peace, economics, etc. It's a long list.
Since you already claim to believe much of this, it's senseless for me to try to convince you otherwise.
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