--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:20 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > OK, I've listened to it, and I think you need to > > > listen to it again. The fallacy Wilber is talking > > > about doesn't have anything to do with TM's claims. > > > > > > Perhaps you also need to review what TM claims, > > > for that matter. > > > > No that's all right, it's pretty clear to me. For example he says > > in regard to the popular movie "What the Bleep" which prominently > > features John Hagelin making some typical but rather wild (TMO > > type) claims: > > > > "For example "What the Bleep Do we Know", I would say that more or > > less every actual assertion they make about physical realities, > > meaning "quantum realities" and their relationship to spiritual > > reality is categorically FALSE." > > Well, again, we'd need to know what Hagelin actually > *said* in the film, and what Wilber means by "*more or > less* every assertion." If that vague statement makes > it all "pretty clear" to you, I'd say you're rather > easily satisfied.
A few of the more respected, non-Ramtha scientists in the Bleep distanced themselves from the film after it opened saying their remarks were edited in such a way as to distort their true purport. Hagelin did not distanced himself, in fact he subsequently went on a tour with other people in the film to promote it. Doesn't seem like hagelin has any problem with the film's science. Most interesting to me is that this is one of the guys who led the charge in ffld in the mid 90s against other teachers popular in town, writing an editorial in the local paper saying MMY's teachings are the only ones that are 100% vedic and life-supporting and MUM had a responsibility to protect meditators from other teachers. Also said MMY was giving out PdD level knowledge in spirituality, while these other teachers (ravi shankar, gangagi, etc) were giving "kindergarten" classes in spirituality. Funny that this guy has no problem aligning adn touring with something as flaky as the Ramtha group. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
