Eureka once more!

--- anonyff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In [email protected], "authfriend"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected],
> doctor_gabby_savy 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected],
> "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected],
> doctor_gabby_savy 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected],
> "authfriend" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > >But whatever precession has to do with
> proper
> > > > > > Vastu, it has *nothing* to do with the sun
> rising in the 
> > > > > > west.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And your view contradicts Peter's position.
> > > > 
> > > > I seriously doubt Peter was saying precession
> results
> > > > in the sun eventually rising in the west. 
> What's off
> > > > about your mental model, I strongly suspect,
> is that
> > > > you think what he's saying *implies* this;
> precession
> > > > certainly does not.
> > > > 
> > > > Whether precession throws proper Vastu off,
> I'm not
> > > > sure; but if it does, it would be within a
> relatively
> > > > small range--about 24 degrees--and only
> temporarily:
> > > > every 26,000 years, approximately, the circle
> described
> > > > by the earth's axis is complete, and it's back
> to its
> > > > starting point.
> > > 
> > > Ok. I may have not gotten the full picture of
> precession, the 24
> > > degree part. Ok, visualizing it, I think I get
> it. At 180 degrees of
> > > precession, the relationship / tilt of the earth
> to sun is changed 
> > > by 24 degrees.
> > 
> > Yes, I think that's right.
> > 
> > > Yet during the 26000 year precesson cycle, the
> planets, including
> > > the sun, "travel" the full 360 degrees of the
> zodiac.
> > >  
> > > Thats the visual model I have not captured yet,
> to capture these two
> > > things.
> > 
> > See the link I posted in response to Vaj--that may
> help.
> > I've got both models in mind, but I can't put them
> > together.  I don't believe the difference between
> the
> > Tropical and Sidereal Zodiacs is at all related to
> Vastu,
> > though, except insofar as the precession of the
> equinoxes
> > is related to both the differences in the Zodiacs
> and
> > to Vastu (and I'm not sure it's related to Vastu
> after
> > all--see below).
> > 
> > > Regardless, my quesion is the same -- but its
> just the "effect" is
> > > less, about 12th. 
> > > 
> > > a) in 13000 years, does the sun rise 24 degrees
> off the point earth 
> > > it now rises (at same day of the year)?
> > 
> > It's either 24 or 12 degrees.  I *think* it's 24.
> >  
> > > In other words,
> > > 
> > > b) If a house is facing the sun properly now,
> will it be facing the
> > > sun properly in 13000 years.
> > 
> > See the message Rick just posted from somebody
> else.
> > I think he's right, that due east is an
> earth-based
> > direction and doesn't ever change no matter what
> > the earth's axis does--which would mean Peter is
> wrong,
> > but in a different way than you had thought.
> > 
> > If Peter's right and Rick's poster is wrong,
> though,
> > a house that's facing the sun properly now would
> be
> > facing the sun properly again in *26,000* years,
> not
> > 13,000.  I think...  Thirteen thousand years would
> be
> > the maximum variance.
> > 
> > 
> > > And for practical purposes, even if the correct
> orientation of the 
> > > sun does shift over time, its about 1 degree
> every 500 years. As I
> > > remember SV tolerances are like 2 degrees. So a
> building is good to 
> > > go for 1000 years or so.
> >
> 
> Here's my 2 cents...  East and West are determined
> by the spin of the
> earth, not by the relationship of the earth and sun
> or stars.  The
> earth spins about the axis defined by the poles, and
> that doesn't
> change - the north pole is always at the same place
> in the arctic, and
> the south pole is always at the same place in the
> antarctic.  So long
> as the earth spins about that axis, the sun will
> always rise in the
> east, but at a varying latitude as Vaj said.  That
> higher or lower
> latitude will change the length of the day, but it
> won't change which
> way is east.  If you use Vaj's stick and circle
> method for finding
> which way is east, the latitude of the sun will
> determine the times at
> which the shadow crosses the line, and the angle
> from the stick to the
> crossing points, but when you join the points, the
> line will always be
> parallel to the spin of the earth.
> 
> The magnetic poles are another matter entirely. 
> They are close to the
> earths spin axis, but constantly slowly moving
> around, which is why
> magnetic north, for most of us, is not the same as
> true north.  Then
> occasionally at random times, typically hundreds of
> thousands of years
> apart, the magnetic poles switch over between the
> arctic and
> antarctic.  If you look at a compass after that
> happens it will
> indicate that *magnetic* north is in the antarctic,
> so based on that
> the sun will rise in the west, but that's only by
> the compass, and in
> fact the sun will continue to rise in the same
> direction it always has.
> 
> So you can build your east facing house, and it will
> stay facing east.
> 
> Scorpianon - facing east and still not enlightened
> 
> 
> 
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