--- In [email protected], "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], doctor_gabby_savy 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], doctor_gabby_savy 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > >But whatever precession has to do with proper
> > > > > > Vastu, it has *nothing* to do with the sun rising in the 
> > > > > > west.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And your view contradicts Peter's position.
> > > > 
> > > > I seriously doubt Peter was saying precession results
> > > > in the sun eventually rising in the west.  What's off
> > > > about your mental model, I strongly suspect, is that
> > > > you think what he's saying *implies* this; precession
> > > > certainly does not.
> > > > 
> > > > Whether precession throws proper Vastu off, I'm not
> > > > sure; but if it does, it would be within a relatively
> > > > small range--about 24 degrees--and only temporarily:
> > > > every 26,000 years, approximately, the circle described
> > > > by the earth's axis is complete, and it's back to its
> > > > starting point.
> > > 
> > > Ok. I may have not gotten the full picture of precession, the 
24
> > > degree part. Ok, visualizing it, I think I get it. At 180 
degrees of
> > > precession, the relationship / tilt of the earth to sun is 
changed 
> > > by 24 degrees.
> > 
> > Yes, I think that's right.
> > 
> > > Yet during the 26000 year precesson cycle, the planets, 
including
> > > the sun, "travel" the full 360 degrees of the zodiac.
> > >  
> > > Thats the visual model I have not captured yet, to capture 
these two
> > > things.
> > 
> > See the link I posted in response to Vaj--that may help.
> > I've got both models in mind, but I can't put them
> > together.  I don't believe the difference between the
> > Tropical and Sidereal Zodiacs is at all related to Vastu,
> > though, except insofar as the precession of the equinoxes
> > is related to both the differences in the Zodiacs and
> > to Vastu (and I'm not sure it's related to Vastu after
> > all--see below).
> > 
> > > Regardless, my quesion is the same -- but its just 
the "effect" is
> > > less, about 12th. 
> > > 
> > > a) in 13000 years, does the sun rise 24 degrees off the point 
earth 
> > > it now rises (at same day of the year)?
> > 
> > It's either 24 or 12 degrees.  I *think* it's 24.
> >  
> > > In other words,
> > > 
> > > b) If a house is facing the sun properly now, will it be 
facing the
> > > sun properly in 13000 years.
> > 
> > See the message Rick just posted from somebody else.
> > I think he's right, that due east is an earth-based
> > direction and doesn't ever change no matter what
> > the earth's axis does--which would mean Peter is wrong,
> > but in a different way than you had thought.
> > 
> > If Peter's right and Rick's poster is wrong, though,
> > a house that's facing the sun properly now would be
> > facing the sun properly again in *26,000* years, not
> > 13,000.  I think...  Thirteen thousand years would be
> > the maximum variance.
> > 
> > 
> > > And for practical purposes, even if the correct orientation of 
the 
> > > sun does shift over time, its about 1 degree every 500 years. 
As I
> > > remember SV tolerances are like 2 degrees. So a building is 
good to 
> > > go for 1000 years or so.
> >
> 
> Here's my 2 cents...  East and West are determined by the spin of 
the
> earth, not by the relationship of the earth and sun or stars.  The
> earth spins about the axis defined by the poles, and that doesn't
> change - the north pole is always at the same place in the arctic, 
and
> the south pole is always at the same place in the antarctic.  So 
long
> as the earth spins about that axis, the sun will always rise in the
> east, but at a varying latitude as Vaj said.  That higher or lower
> latitude will change the length of the day, but it won't change 
which
> way is east.  If you use Vaj's stick and circle method for finding
> which way is east, the latitude of the sun will determine the 
times at
> which the shadow crosses the line, and the angle from the stick to 
the
> crossing points, but when you join the points, the line will 
always be
> parallel to the spin of the earth.
> 
> The magnetic poles are another matter entirely.  They are close to 
the
> earths spin axis, but constantly slowly moving around, which is why
> magnetic north, for most of us, is not the same as true north.  
Then
> occasionally at random times, typically hundreds of thousands of 
years
> apart, the magnetic poles switch over between the arctic and
> antarctic.  If you look at a compass after that happens it will
> indicate that *magnetic* north is in the antarctic, so based on 
that
> the sun will rise in the west, but that's only by the compass, and 
in
> fact the sun will continue to rise in the same direction it always 
has.
> 
> So you can build your east facing house, and it will stay facing 
east.
> 
> Scorpianon - facing east and still not enlightened
>

...but what happens when the universe implodes back into a point 
singularity? How will that influence the determination of East vs 
West, and what effect will that have on housing values?





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