--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], doctor_gabby_savy > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You said: > > > > "As I suggested earlier, the day-to-day position of > > the sun in the Zodiac is an entirely different frame > > of reference from the position of the sun from year > > to year at the time of the vernal equinox. > > > > In the latter frame of reference, this year the sun > > will be in Pisces at the time of the vernal equinox > > (it'll enter Aquarius in 2013). However, in the > > former frame of reference, this year the sun will be > > in the first degree of Aries at the vernal equinox." > > > > You above clarified that in your view that "both" points of > > reference are tropical. The obsevational reference is the same. > > I don't even know if the former frame of reference > is Tropical. The thing is that the two frames of. > reference are different in an entirely different way > than the Tropical/Sidereal frames of reference are > different. Or to put it another way, Tropical/Sidereal > are two different ways of measuring the same thing; > but what you're measuring when you want to know where > the vernal equinox occurs in 13,000 years is something > else entirely. > > You're getting day-to-day confused with year-to-year.
And how is that? Use the single frame of reference of an earth-cenetirc view as I suggested in my Visual Model. The sun moves 360 degrees through all 12 constellations in one year. It moves about one degree in one day, about 1/30 of a constellation. Its the same frame of reference, just different distances. In that one day, one degree move, the centric-earth is also rotating once. At vernal equinox it spins and the sun "rises" on the horizon at due east. The only day of the year this occurs. Then sun "rotates around the earth" (earth centric view) 72 times. 72 years. Now the VE point, where the sun rises due east, is 359 degrees from the sun at VE 72 years prior. The sun arrives at this point one day earlier in the calendar compared to 72 years prior because it had to travel one degree less in its annual transit. (of course physically the earth rotates around the sun, but the same as above can be expressed from that POV.) Its all one frame, one consitent POV. You are stumbling on a second imaginary frame thats only in your head. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
