--- In [email protected], doctor_gabby_savy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The sun's position at the time of the vernal equinox
> > can be in Virgo without its being September.  

At least its nice you apparently finally see that VE can be in Virgo
in 13000 years. That it moves 180 degrees (tropically) from Pisces to
Aires. That has been my main  point for 2 days now. Its true, AND
there are not two frames of reference in this view.

That sun in virgo occurs in or around sept I thought was quite
obvious. What mechanism would change ir? I mean when in the last 13000
years has sun in tropical Virgo not been in/around "September"? (in
quotes, because calendar systems have clearly changed, but per modern
calendar, sun in tropical virgo was in/around  modern tropical
September 500 years ago, 5000 years ago and 13000 years ago.)

Show me a sun in tropical virgo that was not in (modern calendar)
September?

So obvious that sun in tropical virgo occurs in or around sept I
thought most would easily get the add on point to the above main
point(ve in virgo) : if sun at VE in 13000 years is in tropical virgo,
and sun in tropical virgo is always in/around september , then VE in
13000 would be in September. A surprising insight which I figured many
would enjoy the sharing of. 







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