On Feb 2, 2006, at 8:14 PM, doctor_gabby_savy wrote:

--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Feb 2, 2006, at 7:54 PM, doctor_gabby_savy wrote:


And if we are to believe conventional wisdom (tales from MMY), SBS

gave MMY a path for householders -- world wide. Presumably this was

not the mainstream things he taught his monks to do,  nor devout hindu

 audiences.


In spending a good amount of time with some of the western swamis who  

were all initiated by the Shankaracharya of the south I can tell you  

none of these people were using mantras for meditation--they were all  

doing a higher form of meditation to quickly realize Brahman.


I stumbled into the Kalachakra week-long teaching given by HHDL in

Sarnath -- with the sand painting of the mandala and all. Meditation

on that, or mastery of it, is said to do great things. It is so

detailed and intricate. To practice and master "goking" it, did seem a

lot more sophisticated than TM. Then again TM's dogma is simplicity is

the key.


The kalachakra-tantra is an anuttara tantra, as is Sri Vidya the path of SBS. And they both contain simple methods of meditation but also both go far beyond basic sitting practice.



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