--- In [email protected], "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Personally, I tend to think that enlightenment confers inner > contentment complete with a sense of wonder, sense of purpose and > more. But on the strength of what I can gather, I am unconvinced that > it necessarilly removes the possibility of the enlightened one living > his/her enlightenment blissfully ignorant about a great many things, > about, ignorant about the truth of the planet's history or the story > of creation, ignorant whether this or that storybook figure actually > existed or not. Perhaps, and this is dangerous territory perhaps, but > just perhaps, enlightenment is no more but no less than living a > wonderfully drugless high, and does not necessarilly confer any > higher perceptions beyond those which that individual personality > can rise to.
Personally, I wouldn't consider the truth of the planet's history or the other items you mention as "higher perceptions" in the sense of the knowledge that is said to be structured in consciousness. I do suspect the individual personality imposes some limitations on what can be known, but exactly how those limitations manifest in the enlightened person is a different and more complicated question, I think. I tend to favor the notion that at least in terms of relative knowledge, enlightenment confers access on a "need to know" basis, which would perhaps be determined on the basis of karma, individual and group or "mass." In other words, it would be appropriate to the situation. Maybe this is also in some sense the case with the knowledge structured in consciousness, "higher" knowledge, whatever that may involve. Or maybe full higher knowledge is accessible to all who are fully enlightened, but the apparent differences have to do with individual personality variations in how that knowledge is understood and expressed intellectually. In other words, that there are differences in what purportedly enlightened individuals believe and teach--especially in terms of the nature and mechanics of consciousness--doesn't seem to me *necessarily* to preclude the possibility that enlightenment does confer "higher knowledge." On the other hand, I'm not at all sure that the answer to any of this is automatically conferred by enlightenment. I gather you prefer not to comment on this: > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Premanand Paul Mason" > > > > <premanandpaul@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I have a similar take on this, > > > > > > > > But you said you thought Guru Dev's take was "entirely > > > > contrary" to that of MMY. I was suggesting it wasn't > > > > that different. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
