I replied to this message earlier but somehow the message appears to 
have become lost.

When Guru Dev became Shankaracharya he relaxed his habit of keeping 
his distance of women. In fact, if you look at the filmstock of him 
giving satsang it is clear there are many women present.
I have the details of an elderly lady who claims to be Guru Dev's 
first female devotee. However, unfortunately she speaks neither 
English nor Norwegian.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" 
> <premanandpaul@> wrote:
> >
> > To recapitulate, from my observation, it is often the more 
> spiritually 
> > inclined who get involved in the teachings of the church or in 
the 
> > thinking of a particular 'spiritual' teacher. Having gotten 
> involved, 
> > they soon find there are certain beliefs about infallability to 
> deal 
> > with, and I think that is to found in most religions and in 
> many 'guru' 
> > teachings. Thus the spiritual seeker, as a step on his/her 
> journey, in 
> > order to become a part of a group, is frequently asked to buy 
into 
> the 
> > infallibility of someone.
> > Outside of these areas, the issue of infallibility is less 
> prevalent.
> > But personally, I don't believe for a minute that it is either 
> > spiritual or necessary to believe in a teacher's infallibility. 
> Quite 
> > the opposite in fact. It is a well-known tradition that one 
should 
> test 
> > one's teacher rather than have blind allegance.
> 
> I agree with you. To raise critical questions is a good thing - 
even 
> when it comes to Guru Dev - who is my absolute favorite. I love his 
> quotations. He was very strict - but he was true to his principles. 
> He choosed his own way - not compromising - . I have to respect him 
> for that - even as a woman I would not have been allowed to come 
> near him at all.
> Ingegerd
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" 
> > > <premanandpaul@> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Ironically, it is often the more spiritual who become 
> > > > enveloped in this belief of another's infallibility.
> > > 
> > > I can't agree with this, because that would imply a
> > > definition of "spiritual" as a person who is actively 
> > > seeking to believe in their teacher's infallibility.  
> > > I don't see that as even a *positive* thing, much 
> > > less "spiritual."
> >
>






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