--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > I think MMY's definition of mistakes in this context is that 
> > which 
> > prevents or slows further growth towards higher states of 
> > consciousness, not just that which overshadows the Self.
> 
> That works too, just doesn't have anything to do with ethical 
> or moral 'mistakes'. I mean no'thing' can or does overshadow 
> the Self, you just don't know that until you know that ;-)

Excellent point. The Self has *never* been overshadowed.
There was never any 'progress' to be made 'towards'
higher states of consciousness; they were always present,
just unrealized.  And behavior, both 'before' and 'after,'
has always been either perfect or imperfect or both,
depending purely on one's belief system.  If you believe
that the universe acts on its own and sentient beings
are mere reflectors of that, it's always perfect.  If 
you believe that the universe has no will and no direction
of its own and any sense of 'direction' or will comes
from the combined direction and will of its sentient
beings, it's all a crapshoot and everything is and
always has been and always will be imperfect.  I'm
perfectly commfortable with the latter philosophy;
others prefer to believe in the eternal perfection
of it all.  But it's all just point of view.







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