> > > That works too, just doesn't have anything to do with ethical 
> > > or moral 'mistakes'. I mean no'thing' can or does overshadow 
> > > the Self, you just don't know that until you know that ;-)
> > 
> > Excellent point. The Self has *never* been overshadowed.
> > There was never any 'progress' to be made 'towards'
> > higher states of consciousness; they were always present,
> > just unrealized.  And behavior, both 'before' and 'after,'
> > has always been either perfect or imperfect or both,
> > depending purely on one's belief system.  If you believe
> > that the universe acts on its own and sentient beings
> > are mere reflectors of that, it's always perfect.  If 
> > you believe that the universe has no will and no direction
> > of its own and any sense of 'direction' or will comes
> > from the combined direction and will of its sentient
> > beings, it's all a crapshoot and everything is and
> > always has been and always will be imperfect.  I'm
> > perfectly commfortable with the latter philosophy;
> > others prefer to believe in the eternal perfection
> > of it all.  But it's all just point of view.
> 
> If you believe everything is and always has been and
> always will be imperfect, on what basis would you
> criticize another person's behavior?

Intuition, and the promptings of one's own
internal ethical 'meter.'  









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