--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "anonyff" <anonyff@> wrote: > > > > The reason I think the conversation about the enlightened and their > > ability to supposedly not make mistakes is silly is because the > > information regarding their purported ability to only act in a > > spontaneous right way because they are now "beyond the influence of > > right and wrong" comes from people who are claiming, or at least > > acting in such a manner, as to have us all believe they are > > enlightened. It is quite self-serving of them to have us believe > > this. > > Yup. That was my whole point in all of this -- people > are judging Maharishi's actions using a definition of > enlightenment that *he* provided to them.
Or that they have read or heard elsewhere. MMY's definition is pretty standard, as I believe I've pointed out before. And most of > the time, they don't realize this; they feel somehow > that their internal definition of enlightenment some- > how descended from the heavens full-blown, and wasn't > taught to them. It's a hoot. I'd be *very* surprised if anyone thought it had descended from the heavens full-blown, although they might argue that (a) they didn't hear it *just* from MMY (see above); and (b) from whatever source(s) they heard it, they didn't just swallow it whole but reflected on it and ultimately decided it was plausible on the basis of their own understanding, observation, and experience. Again, "taught to them" is a weasel phrase used for the purpose of loading the argument. And this applies *especially* to the premise that the enlightened person spontaneously acts according to the laws of nature and "doesn't make mistakes," because that is so contradictory to ordinary experience (albeit they may not understand what "doesn't make mistakes" means--see wayback's earlier post for a really good rundown). ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
