--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > <snip> > > > > There *is* a criterion that would make one tend to > > > > respect such descriptions in ancient texts, be they > > > > from the Vedas or other traditions -- personal exper- > > > > ience. That is, if one has had the experience of > > > > performing or witnessing such powers, then if the > > > > description in the text agrees with your experience, > > > > then you might give the text more credibility. Same > > > > thing with some of the "legendary" animals described > > > > in texts of the past. One can treat them as fiction > > > > only until you run into one. Once you do, the texts > > > > are harder to be skeptical of. > > > > > > My recollection is that your personal experiences are such that > > > you don't believe that a photographer might have recorded them > > > as you remembered them. > > > > Your recollection is incorrect. I don't *know* that > > the experiences (of levitation, someone turning > > invisible, etc.) would have been captured on video > > or in a photograph. > > > > > Most of us wouldn't find that to be "real" in the > > > usual sense of hte word. > > > > "Most of us" can go suck eggs. What others believe > > or don't believe is real doesn't affect me in any way. :-) > > The question is, does "Barry really saw X" translate > into "X is real"? >
And Barry has already admittedthat not everyone who was there when he saw things like levitation saw levitation. In other words, those people would claim that there was no levitation to be photographed since they never saw it. Contrast that with MMY's claim that levitation in the floating stage will be unambiguous and that everyone will agree that a physical event took place. I mean, even inthe hopping stage, everyone agrees that a physical event takes place and the observational particulars aren't in dispute, only the *cause* of the hopping, which even the TMO agrees is caused by the muscles pushing on the ground, drivingthe body into the air (I heard Bevan Morris describe it this way to the world press at the DC press demo -- it's on the old MIU Video Magazine presentation of the event). > > > > > > > > > What you should ponder is how *you* would react if > > you had witnessed such phenomena -- often -- and > > yet had no objective evidence of their existence. > > > > Would you have the balls to believe your own exper- > > ience or would you doubt, and continue to doubt > > until "outside verification" made it *safe* for > > you to believe your own experience. > > > > If the latter, I would suggest that you're gonna > > have a long, long road to enlightenment. IMO, one > > of the things you have to do to realize it is learn > > to trust yourself. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
