--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <jyouells@> > > wrote: > > > The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt > > greater > > > killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near impossible in > > the > > > middle east, a functioning representative democracy. I think that > > this > > > was seem as the 'least evil' solution to an intractable problem. As > > > far as perpetuating violence: there was and is plenty to go around. > > > The US goal is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to > > topple > > > major economies and political systems thru violence and terror. If > > you > > > can't turn the killer into a peace lover, do you kill him or let > > him > > > continue to kill? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > Dude, drink the Kool-aid! > > > > This story that the US was always planning to foment democracy in > > the Middle East only surfaced after the Bush crowd was caught lying > > about the original justification for their mass killing; WMDs. > > > > Not only has the violent external imposition of democracy NEVER > > worked before, it's a truly pathetic substitution for coherent > > diplomacy, coupled with enforced economic sanctions. > > > > Without fail, every time the US has meddled underhandedly in the > > political affairs of another country, it has backfired on us. As it > > has now again. I just read the responses of Sens. McCain and Biden > > on the situation in Iraq. A complete failure. > > > > Your demonizing of the Islamic world is interesting- another piece > > of revisionist propaganda by the Bush machine. As I said earlier, > > when you cage people and poke sharp sticks at them, as we have done > > to Iraq, then when they lash out in anger, it is easy to use that as > > justification for your initial wrong actions. Police use this > > occasionally to justify killing someone. > > > > There are adherents in the Islamic world who are every bit as > > radical as the Christian fundamentalists. Ironically they are now > > finding fertile ground for violently forwarding their agenda- > > something that was not possible before we declared war on them, at > > least not in a unified way. > > > > Just as we are now using the violent response to our Sin as further > > justification to escalate our warring, so are the Islamic radicals > > using our warring as justification for their continued violent > > response against us. > > > > And I totally understand that what the US is doing militarily is > > seen as an intelligent response from the standpoint of the ignorance > > of waking state consciousness. Unfortunately, long term it will only > > culture further violence against the US, and is doomed to failure > > and further suffering. Very stupid policy. > > > > > Jim, > I just don't care to go down this road on FFL. Sorry I brought it up. > > JohnY > > I've been spitting out the Kool-Aid for years... > Possibly ignorant, and in the waking state consciousness... :-) > Unfathomable is the course of action -- BG. > Arjuna, stand up and fight! -- Lord Krishna >
I respect that. It is no fun for me to discuss this either. Please consider it closed. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
