--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 15, 2006, at 8:39 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > > > --- jim_flanegin wrote: > > > >> > >> Still do TM... > >> > > > > How come, Jim? What's in it for you? > > > > Not long ago someone -- I think Alex Stanley -- > > pointed out how great meditation must be in > > enlightenment. Is that the motivator? > > > > These queries are all part of a larger question > > of how people's spiritual practices change upon > > awakening.
I still get fatigued, and it helps tremendously providing that deep rest. How my spiritual practices changed? Aside from TM providing a specific benefit, everything became a spiritual practice. Baseline. White teeth of the dead dog type of stuff I guess... > Depends how you define "awakening", a western word. > > I've been reading a tantra called "The Matrix of Pure Appearance and > Primordial Consciousness" and it talks a lot about people who find > "awareness"/awakening, etc. and think they are enlightened. At the > end of the Kali yuga, this will become more and more common as people > will claim themselves as teachers and begin teaching this to others. > > "Not knowing how to distinguish between realization and gaining > confidence in the View of enlightened mind, many people mistake one > for the other and thereby deceive themselves. So learn how to make > that distinction." > Yeah, it only matters if suffering becomes transient, like everything else--in any situation, or state of mind. If the 'seeker's burn', as I've heard it described, remains, then there is not enlightenment. If suffering falls away, then that is the only gauge of enlightenment. Anything else is deception, mood making or mental confusion. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
