--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, the familiar sound of the Judy Mantra: "If
> > anyone heard anything different than I heard,
> > or understands what Maharishi said differently than
> > I do, they're wrong and I'm right."  :-) :-) :-)
> > 
> > It's nice to have a "reference standard," eh?  :-)
> 
> [Push button #2, Label: Judy]
> 
> There are obviously more people who heard it differently than you,
> especially when you didn't hear it at all.

Judy appeals to "Judy consensus" -- if she believes
it, it's true. You are appealing more to "mass consensus"
-- if enough people heard what I heard, it must be true.

Either way, you're both asserting that you know the
"truth."

I was merely making a statement about how Maharishi
presents knowledge *vs how other teachers I've met
present knowledge*. Maharishi does *occasionally*
remind people of the "knowledge is different in 
different states of consciousness" rap. But he does
*not* do so all that often. *More* often, he presents
the point of view he's talking about at the time as
if it is Truth with a capital 'T.' And the TBs tend
to repeat it and swing it like a club *as if* it were
Truth with a capital 'T.'

Other teachers I've met and interacted with aren't
like that. They'll give a nice talk about how the
universe appears from one particular point of view,
and almost *always* end the talk with, "But this is
only how the universe appears from such-and-such
point of view; it is completely false from other
points of view." At times, some of these teachers
were fluid enough to start a talk by speaking 
from one point of view (state of consciousness)
and describing how things looked "from there,"
and then segueing *in the same talk* into the
completely opposite point of view, ending with
how things looked from a different state of 
consciousnes. I always found that a much more
honest way of presenting things than I found
Maharishi's, that's all.  These guys went the
extra mile; Maharishi was lazy.







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