--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > But you're welcome to it if it floats your boat. > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess there is simply no choice. > > > > > > > > > > See? That's where we differ. I have a choice. :-) > > > > > > > > No, the situation is the same for us both, just you think > about > > it > > > > differently. > > > > > > +++ You stand in the rain-you get wet-problem > > > You don't stand in the rain, you dont, no problem. > > > Your choice, your problem. N. > > > > I tend to agree. For me, it's about making the > > choice to come in out of the rain. > > > > As I read what trinity is saying, he doesn't > > believe that he has that choice. Someone or > > something else makes it for him. > > > > So if I stand in the rain and get wet, it's > > the result of my choice. I take responsibility > > for my wetness and having caused it. > > > > It he stands in the rain and gets wet, it's > > because the universe wanted it that way. :-) > > > oh what the hell...this is the classic argument of identification, > often misintepreted in terms of practical action. > > Coming in out of the rain is always a good idea, whether or not we > IDENTIFY as our limited bodies, egos, minds, thoughts, or whether we > completely surrender to Brahman. > > Can we say that an experiential identification with Brahman is a > more evolved state than to identify with our small self as the > ultimate doer? > > Yes, but very, very carefully. > > Identification with Brahman is a state of evolution, becuase we work > to achieve it, and it does take considerable work... Just as we > evolve in a sense through school, or our careers, or any endeavor. > > This IS NOT to say that identification with Brahman is BETTER than > any other state. > > My 2 cents- have a great weekend everybody! >
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