--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Whatever floats your boat.  :-)
> 
> As long as we're dealing with speculation, 

In this case we are dealing with experiences.

> I think you're pretty heavily invested in not 
> being responsible for your own decisions and 
> actions. Something in you doesn't believe that 
> they could ever be perfect if it was "you" that
> made the decisions. So you like to believe that 
> the universe goes to the trouble of making them 
> all for you. 

The question is more about the 'I', and our sense of it. Thats the
whole point, not about escaping responsibility as you wrongly
insinuate. You constantly switch from a cosmic: 'Hey, all is
illussion' to a 'every viewpoint is true (except this one)' to a
dualistic: 'You think the universe does it for you'

I am simply relating an experience. You said you have the same but
yours is even better etc. But thats not the point. This is childish.

And then continue to make other people responsible for all the odds
that happened to you in the past, your spiritual misconceptions, and
you complian about, why they didn't force certain insights on you.

Its so easy to talk all this Brahman talk intellectauly, and about the
many viewpoints the self could have and how perfect it is, but its
likely that it's still the ego claiming all this. The ego does not
want to admitt its impotence. You can feel in perfect control about
all your action, but its already trickier to feel in control of all
your thoughts. Most people on this forum are TM teachers or were
practising TM and are therefore familiar with the instruction that
thoughts don't need to be controlled, simply because it is so
difficult, and it would cause strain. Even if you can control your
thoughts, it doesn't mean you have controlled the mind completely. And
then who is you, who controls?

Therefore, for the ego to claim self-design of consciousness, you
know, having as many view-points as you want, is just a farce, so
popular it may be as a New-Age concept.

I prefer the old-fashioned concepts of bhakti and surrender, something
I have never heard of you.I don't say that everybody has to go the
Guru-vada, but I think that anybody missing Bhakti, or a sense of
surrender in his path is lacking in depth and probably fooling
himself.There is no problem in fooling others, and try to appear as
great and whitty etc, but don't fool yourself.





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