--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 9, 2006, at 4:57 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 9, 2006, at 1:00 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I genuinely want to know which techniques out there are > > > > > > effortless and do not require concentration. > > > > > > > > > > You must've missed the "TM is not effortless" thread here > > > > > sometime ago. TM is *easy* but not truly effortless. > > > > > > > > BS. No effort is required to do TM. Some effort mayhappen on > > > > occasssion, and obsessing about how much or how little, if any, > is > > > > detrimental, but no effort is required. > > > > > > BS. You're supposed to start by thinking something > > > in particular (the mantra). I've practiced techniques > > > in which no such artificiality is required. > > > > Precisely my point. Sheesh you almost get the mpression these guys > > only have ever believed what they are told. > > Says Vaj, demonstrating without question that he never > got the knack of TM. > > Again: It has nothing to do with "what we were told." > That's Vaj's and Barry's standard copout. It has to > do with personal experience. >
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