--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 2006, at 8:44 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote:
> 
> > It is just the observation that evolving in nature happens 
> > through errors and in animals also by avoiding the mistakes 
> > and as even in a more advanced form  humans can sometimes 
> > also learn from mistakes. I consider the manifest creation 
> > to be expression of God or one aspect of God.
> 
> Ah, a Creator God. Yeah, they screw up all the time, esp. 
> at the start. :-)

LOL. 

Being essentially a Buddhist w.r.t. to "creation"
(that is, believing that there never *was* one, and
that the universe has always been, is now, and will
always be) I've always been interested in how much of
theology seems to be based on linear thinking. 

If one begins with the assumption that there was a 
creation (a start), and that things evolve towards 
dissolution (an end), then the need to posulate a 
Creator intellectually arises.

If you further assume that there have been multiple
creations, with a 'gap' between the dissolution of 
one and the creation of the next, *again* the need 
to postulate a Creator arises. (Because if the 'next'
creation actually is 'created,' then some Creator
energy or intelligence must have been present during 
the 'gap' between creations to create the next one.

On the other hand, if one starts with the assumption
that the universe is eternal, and that there has never
been a moment in which it was not manifest, and never
will be, then there is no intellectual need to postu-
ate a Creator. The need for a Creator is very much
dependent on the assumption that there was once a
creation.







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