Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?

[Vaj]

Another good reason to use an email program rather than a web browser to answer your mail! :-) In any event, the point here is that unless one is doing a non-dual form of quiescence/transcendence meditation, there will--by it's very nature always be not only some dualism or some subtle meditational "effort" involved. In the example you give of your own personal practice the level of "patching" (consciously returning again and again) has been achieved and the level of "closeness" has been arrived upon. By "closeness" this means you are very "close" to the transcendent and the mind, even on assuming an outward stroke, "stays close" to the transcendent and habitually reacquires it's object (the mantra), however gross or subtle depends on the person and where on the outward stroke they "reacquire" it. Nonetheless these two levels of transcendent practice constitute what is generally called "mindfulness", although most TMers will not understand this as such--that's what they really are. In this instance I am comparing the practice of transcendental meditation with a 9-fold model of total quiescence (mentioned here before). "Closeness" represents the 4th level in that model. On Mar 12, 2006, at 10:40 AM, authfriend wrote: Vaj, I spent quite a bit of time responding to your post, and when I clicked Send, Yahoo apparently burped, taking me to the page asking for a password.  Normally when it wants your password so you can post, it requests the password after you've hit Reply but before you've had a chance to type anything in your response. After I'd entered my password this time, I was taken to the Yahoo home page, and my response was lost.  I've complained to Yahoo about this, much good it will do me. In any case, if I have the energy I'll try to recreate the response later on.  In the meantime, I wanted to at least express my thanks for your willingness in this post to engage in reasoned discussion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 10, 2006, at 5:49 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > If there weren't such confusion, you'd be able to > > > > respond straightforwardly to the points I'm > > > > making, pro or con.  Not only can you not do so, you > > > > repeatedly attempt to shift ground or otherwise > > > > obscure the debate. > > > > > > > > > > This is just another typical Judy "baiting" post. I shouldn't even > > > bother answering it, but alas, here I am again answering it. > > > > > > We do only have one quote, presumably from Mahesh, which Rick has > > > provided. My offline conversations are really, truly none of your > > > business. > > > > Of course, I never suggested they were.  I took a > > little jab at you when you mentioned the offline > > posts because, as I said, you're constantly making > > references to having had privileged communications. > > I don't think what you referring to are "priviledged > communications" <snip remainder> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.