On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:41 PM, wayback71 wrote:

> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> >
> > > An MUM staffer says that Bevan and lawyers are putting quite a bit
> > > into the
> > > lawsuit against MUM brought by the parents of Levi Butler. The  
> suit
> > > draws a
> > > bigger line to include other TM organizations besides MUM; the two
> > > families
> > > make claims against the techniques too. A lawyer who helps MUM  
> with
> > > legal
> > > issues said he feels we can handle the allegations about  
> techniques
> > > but the
> > > claim against MUM for the wrongful death will be more difficult.
> >
> >
> > One of the dangers of canned meditation "techniques" is that they
> > don't allow for all the subtle nuances of a potentially infinite
> > variety of students. All these people would have to do is subpoena
> > (or whatever you call it) the checking procedures and show how there
> > are a limited set of responses, IIRC, none of which ever tell you to
> > 'stop meditating' or cut back if "x" happens (i'm sure someone will
> > correct me if I'm wrong here). And actually they had this kid over-
> > meditating as it was. I'll be amazed if they get out of this one.
> >
> > Upside is, this would be a good time to modify and expand the
> > checking procedures to include what they darn well know are the  
> side-
> > effects--and sometime dangerous side effects--of TM. But we all know
> > it is extremely unlikely this will ever happen.
>
> Changing checking notes wold not help - that would put checkers in  
> the position of
> evaluating a person's mental status, and open them up to all sorts  
> of liability wouldn't it?

Perhaps, but common sense can go a long way--and I can't help but  
wonder on the value of more traditional meditational systems which  
use lengthy mental screening and moral training before starting  
meditation--as this essentially weeds out people with illness. In a  
"come and get it" meditative model, there will be casualties. My  
point in this case is, if I were the prosecuting attorney, I'd have a  
hay day with all the levels of negligence.

> And checking notes and getting people to learn TM seem to be the  
> very last things on
> MMY's mind for the last several decades.

Indeed.

>
> No one person is to blame for this tragedy.  For example, I imagine  
> that the parents of
> Sem wish, in retrospect, thatthey had never let him go far from  
> home to go to college
> when he had a history (didn't he?) of mental illness.   Obviously,  
> the MUM folks did not
> handle this serious situation properly - no training in this?  No  
> understanindg of mental
> illness or psychosis by those making decisions? a desire to keep  
> this a low profile event,
> so no authorities were called or real help sought for this young  
> man with a brain disorder?
> LIke most tragedies, a series of events, each one of which should  
> not have happened, did
> happen - one after the other - and lives were ruined.  I think most  
> of us have difficulty
> anticipating the Worst.



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