--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], a_non_moose_ff <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer 
> <fairfieldlife@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > on 3/21/06 11:31 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > We were in long rounding and someone passed up a note with a
> > > > > question about bathing. They said a "teacher" had told them 
> > I think was making a specific point about bathing during rounding, 
> > but more broadly, and IMO, more improtantly,  was making a deeply 
> > felt (by him and the audience)  broader point: don't extrapolate 
> > what I say on "this" to "that".
> 
> Yup, that would be my take based on what's been
> said here.
> 
> But it seemed to me that the person who originally
> related the anecdote 

That was me

> was presenting it as an example
> of MMY denying he had given an instruction that he
> had in fact given, i.e., that he had been denying
> that he'd ever said not to bathe after program.

No that was not at all my point in raising the story. I was giving 4-5
 examples of where I felt people incorrectly extrapolated things M
said in a specific context to another or more general context: Vak,
bathing during rounding, AV and Jyotish pre 1990, etc.

> 
> The other objection was Rick's, where he dismissed
> it all as MMY getting upset over something "trivial."
> It would hardly have been trivial if everyone had
> refrained from bathing while they were rounding for
> weeks at a time!

Yes. The "specific" was an important thing. Of course M did not want
people to refrain from bathing. And the broader point was even more
important, IMO
 
> Plus which, this was a very clear-cut example of
> foolish extrapolation, hence a good one to use to
> make the point of using common sense, which is
> certainly not a trivial issue.

Yes.
 
> The one other objection, I guess, is that based on
> his own descriptions of enlightenment, we should
> expect him never to get angry about anything--which
> is *itself* a foolish extrapolation, it seems to me.

My sense in seeing these "outbursts" live, is that he was not "angry"
as we think of it. It was more a drama he was creating to make a
point. Like running after workers with a stick. He was neither
violently inclined -- nor "out of control" ,"rajo guna inflamed". Like
a parent who feigns anger with a child to make it clear "Listen up!
This is important!"


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