--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > wrote:
> <snip>
> > > > The one thing that these three posters have in
> > > > common?  All three have a history of being a little 
> > > > light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
> > > > spiritual experience
> > > 
> > > Interesting that Barry claims to know our
> > > history of personal, subjective spiritual
> > > experience.
> > > 
> > > , and all three have a history of 
> > > > reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
> > > > *have* had such experiences choose to report them.
> > > 
> > > In fact, only one of us has done so (the
> > > person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff).
> > > 
> > > Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about
> > > Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz
> > > levitate that Barry didn't appreciate.
> > 
> > That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that Barry 
> > responded to my request that he actually tell us which other 
> > spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that 
> > were "effortless".
> 
> There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than
> claiming those who criticize you do so because they
> haven't had as much "personal, subjective spiritual
> experience" as you have.

I was merely citing your *own* words, back on
a.m.t. when you were a little more honest, and
stated freely (many times) that you had never had 
any experience of enlightenment/witnessing in activity
that had lasted more than a couple of minutes after
program (as opposed to, say, several days, weeks,
months or years, as reported by other posters there). 

Then for some reason you stopped admitting your lack
of such experiences publicly, and started hinting that 
what you'd said before wasn't the whole story. Whatever.  :-)

Here's your opportunity to set the record straight:
Have you ever had an experience of 24/7 witnessing
(the experience you yourself tend to associate with
CC) that has lasted longer than a couple of minutes?
For example, have you ever had such an experience 
that has ever lasted an hour?  A day?  Several days?
A week?  Two weeks?  A month?  A year?

If you don't answer, you can hardly base us for assuming
that your experience is limited to what you used to talk
about before you stopped talking about such things.  :-)

> It certainly makes the point that having spiritual
> experiences does not a spiritual person make, though.

Yeah, we know that's your position.  Interesting
position for someone who's never *had* those 
experiences to take, eh?  :-)  :-)  :-)







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