On Apr 8, 2006, at 4:29 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 8, 2006, at 2:19 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> >
> > > Yep- that all makes sense. The one thing we should establish in
> this
> > > life is groundedness, centeredness, identification with the Self,
> > > the cosmos, Brahman. Just makes the rest of it manageable, and
> much
> > > more interesting. Otherwise we just as you say, tumble around
> with
> > > our minds closed, even to our selves! Life or death, get
> centered.
> >
> > That's exactly one of the points of my post, there is no center.
> You
> > are truly beyond space and time. There are no reference points,
> no
> > "referentiality". Part of the terror of doing a retreat in total
> > darkness--and in some parts of the Shank. trad. they do an 11
> month
> > dark retreat--is when you do come back to the "body" there's still
> no
> > reference points. No inside or outside, the vase has shattered.
> >
> There is a perfect crystalline structure manifested of consciousness
> once the intellect is perfected. It is this structure, independent
> of any external reference points, including a body, which centers
> the Self. It is the singularity found at the intersection of past,
> future, and infinity.
>
> The terror you speak of above comes from not being established in
> this singularity, and being at the effect of an unstable mind.


Good luck with that.


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