on 4/8/06 6:30 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Vaj, I consider you a friend and I respect your scholarship and
>> experience,
>> and can't match either, and I also respect and to some extent share
>> your
>> concerns about premature claims to enlightenment, but I have
>> serious doubts
>> about your apparent belief that regular folks like Jim, Dr. Pete,
>> etc.,
>> can't possibly be experiencing the "real" thing, or are
>> experiencing some
>> very preliminary stage and mistaking it for something more advanced.
> 
> Well I can only comment on the contradictions they express here (or
> off list). Some of it's very nice, some is contradictory. Anything's
> possible.

And all of it's contingent upon our flawed abilities to judge others'
subjective states from their attempts to express the inexpressible in words.




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