--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:54 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:33 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:49 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wallace, in the aforementioned article, states that a > > > > purification > > > > > > > does happen once one sustains the state for extended > > periods: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "With the attainment of the ninth state called balanced > > > > placement, > > > > > > > accomplished > > > > > > > with the force of familiarization, only an initial impulse > > of > > > > will > > > > > > > and effort is needed at > > > > > > > the beginning of each meditation session; for after that, > > > > > > > uninterrupted, sustained at- > > > > > > > tention occurs effortlessly. Moreover, the engagement of the > > > > will, > > > > > > of > > > > > > > effort, and inter- > > > > > > > vention at this point is actually a hindrance. It is time > > to let > > > > > > the > > > > > > > natural balance of the > > > > > > > mind maintain itself without interference. > > > > > > > > > > > > Which happens all the time, from the start, with TM... > > > > > > > > > > People transcend from the start of their practice, for the > > length > > > > of > > > > > their entire meditation session, i.e. they transcend 20 minutes > > at > > > > a > > > > > time or hours at a time if they wish? > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you have documentation of this? And this voluntary > > transcending > > > > turns into spontaneous transcending for months and years at a > > time as > > > > documented where? > > > > > > LOL. You're the one who said you could do that with TM from the > > > beginning... > > > > > > Hang around some other meditators, you might learn a thing or two > > or > > > three... > > > > > > > There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things. However, I'm > > still waiting for documentation of your claim as in research > > published in peer reviewed journals. > > And why are you waiting for that? > > You need to get out more dude. >
In other words, you don't have any evidence of your claims beyond Ken Wilber playing games with a home EEG machine. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
