On Apr 17, 2006, at 2:49 PM, authfriend wrote: > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things. However, > > > > > I'm still waiting for documentation of your claim as in > > > > > research published in peer reviewed journals. > > > > > > > > And why are you waiting for that? > > > > > > > > You need to get out more dude. > > > > > > In other words, you don't have any evidence of your claims beyond > > > Ken Wilber playing games with a home EEG machine. > > > > LOL. No I'm just not obsessed with the map, I prefer the territory > > itself. > > > > Why are you so shocked about this? Has TM conditioned you to > > believe people *can't* transcend for more than a couple of minutes > > of apnea? It really seems to other you what Wallace is saying. > > Shouldn't we all be happy? > > If it's the case, sure. But how do we know it's > the case if there's no documentation? > > And above you appear to be suggesting there *is* > documentation, you just refuse to provide it.
Talked to Alan today and apparently it's all basically anecdotal accounts of singular yogis, not groups of people. One exceptional person is not what people are looking for, they're looking for groups of people doing it at once to prove it can be done by others. Thus the Shamatha 3 month trial--a precursor to a longer one year version. The PI is going to be Dr. Cliff Saron. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
