On Apr 18, 2006, at 1:02 PM, authfriend wrote:

> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 18, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote:
> >
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > I suspect that what you call transcending is not the same
> as
> > > > > > > what TMers call transcending. Given that TMers don't
> report
> > > > > > > transcending during TM until after-the-fact, this is
> hardly
> > > > > > > surprising...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It'd probably depend on what *style* of shamatha you were
> doing.
> > > > > > For ex. there is a form of shamatha that traces the seed
> > > > > > syllable back to it's source--silence--much like TM.
> > > > >
> > > > > TM *can* do this. Is this the goal of this style of
> meditation,
> > > > > or is it merely a description of an idealized outcome?
> > > >
> > > > It's just one of the styles of shamatha, that's all--the
> beginning
> > > > part.
> > >
> > > That wasn't the question.  Lawson specified that it
> > > was one of the styles.  He's asking if what you
> > > describe is (a) the *goal* of this style, or (b)
> > > a potential outcome.
> > >
> > > In other words, is "tracing the seed syllable back to
> > > its source" a PREscription, or a DEscription?
> > >
> > > > Don't get so stuck in your paradigm.
> > >
> > > Why are you so reluctant to answer the queston?  It's
> > > a pretty simple one.
> >
> > Plurium interrogationum.
>
> So prove me wrong, and answer it.

And you were made the questioner for Lawson when? 


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