>
>
> On Apr 19, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:
>
> > --- Richard Hughes wrote:
> > >
> > > wouldn't sign language be their first brush
> > > with abstract thought and thus first way of thinking about
death?
> >
> > Does abstract thought require language? I've run
> > across that notion, and it's never made sense to
> > me. I have preverbal hunches all the time. Language
> > doesn't seem to make those hunches possible.
>
> In the mantric theory of speech there is an aspect of
> thought--"mental speech"--which occurs both before the thought
> divides into words which make up sentences and are in a
sequential
> order. In other words, the style of speech which comes before
> sequential thought is basically an impulse or "flash" in which it
is
> one unit and not in any sequence. This relates to the aspect of
> mentation in mantra use where the mantra becomes vague or seems
to
> change in some abstract way. What's really happening when
you "think"
> about such a level of thought is that you are trying to apprehend
it
> using sequential thought and that just doesn't work, it's beyond
> sequential probing; it's not even in a sequence yet. People will
> often talk of it as having been "seen" in a flash and that's how
the
> rishi's describe it as "visionary speech": pashyanti. We all have
it.
> Some people are able to communicate from this level consciously
which
> can be annoying to those who can't--you're always getting what
> they're going to say, before they say it. Others will be able to
> grasp entire groups of concepts and idea, just by having that
> "flash". In higher forms of perception, like samadhi, entire
volumes
> of knowledge and wisdom can be acquired using this type
of "speech".
>
Thanks for bringing this up. I am frequently in the position of
feeling or seeing the impulse of my thoughts at once, and then
trying to figure out how to convey them sequentially. The process
seems to be one of feeling the impulse and just letting it unravel
out of my mouth or off my fingers.
Do you have any info regarding the discrete elements of this
pashyanti? I ask because the visionary speech appears to be a
singular flash, that can be deconstructed, or parsed, into the
values of time, emotion, logic, and emphasis, surrounding the
information to be conveyed.
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