wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
<shempmcgurk@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> > <shempmcgurk@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
<jstein@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
<sparaig@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> > > > <shempmcgurk@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > ...if people keep voting those same 90% into office
> > > > > > > > with all the alleged "corruption", wouldn't you say
> > > > > > > > that the people get the government that they deserve?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Like duh, but given the quality of our educational
> > > > > > > system, what can you expect?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's not the educational system so much as the media.
> > > > >
> > > > > "The media"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Remember that "the media" includes the internet and, by
> > > > > definition, this forum.
> > > >
> > > > Well, it does if that's how you define it. I don't.
> > >
> > > Then you are out of touch with the times.
> >
> > Um, no. As I went on to say, "I was referring to the
> > mainstream media, TV and print (which is what people
> > usually mean by 'the media'").
>
> Not any more it's not.
Shemp, this is another of your silly (and uninformed)
arguments. When people talk about "the media," they
usually *still* mean the mainstream media, TV and
print. That the Internet has become a source of
information for many doesn't change what people mean
when they use the term.
> One of the main sources of information for not only the public but
> for journalists themselves is the drudgereport which is NOT on any
> of the "mainstream media" as you call it (except for Drudge's
> Sunday night radio show).
Irrelevant. "The media" usually refers to the
mainstream media, as I said. It does not usually
mean "where I personally get my information."
And I suspect you have a highly exaggerated notion of
what percentage of people use the Internet as a source
of information about politics.
> I would suspect if you took a poll at random of a 1,000 Americans a
> vast majority would include the internet within the definition
> of "the media".
It would depend on how you asked the question, of
course.
When right-wingers grouse about "the liberal media," do
you think they're including the Internet? (Careful, now.)
<snip>
> > Not the least bit curious, in fact. If I had meant
> > to include the Internet, I'd have said, "the media
> > and the Internet." That's because "the media" usually
> > refers to TV and print,
>
> You're so wrong here.
>
> For the past 10 years, "the media" has of course included the
> internet.
No, Shemp, sorry, not in common usage, it hasn't. It
still usually refers to the mainstream media, TV and print.
<snip>
> > > Judy, at least 25% of all my discussion with you are, according
> > > to you "non sequiturs".
> >
> > Which raises the question, why do you so often use
> > non sequiturs in your discussions? (And not just
> > with me by any means.)
>
> non sequitur.
Not at all. Look how you've managed to get this
discussion off track. You use non sequiturs to
divert attention from your mistakes.
Basta.
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