>
> --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" <jpgillam@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Comments interleaved below.
> >
> > --- TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It's an interesting idea, but IMO the only way
> > > you could make such a system useful is to make
> > > voting mandatory.
While I understand and appreciate the problem you are addressing, the
solution apppears onerous. Can you imagine having to evaluate each and
every one of Sparaig's posts?
And some posts don't register a reaction. They just are.
> > I admit that a vote-for-post system would be subject
> > to flaws and misinformation. I only suggest it here
> > because the topic speaks to my larger interest in chat
> > group dynamics. I'm interested not just in the content
> > of posts, but in the larger phenomenon of online
> > discussions. The meta matters, if you will.
>
> The problem with a rating system is that it's all too
> easy for folks to misuse to vent their spleen,
> particularly because it's so anonymous.
But they need not be, such as Amazon's. But theirs is a three level
system: book, review of book (signed) and "was this review useful
(unsighned).
>
> Also, given, as you note, that such a system would
> be available only on the Web interface, it would give
> those who read this forum on the Web a disproportionate
> say. I don't know who-all reads on the Web (I do), but
> they're not necessarily representative of the entire
> group, so it might produce a "sense of the meeting"
> that was significantly distorted.
I would think a reply to recieved e-mail going to an evaluation e-mail
address would be easy to implement.
> Personally, if I *had* to rate each post before I could
> move on to the next, I'd probably quit the forum rather
> than have to deal with such a pain in the butt.
Yes.
Here is an idea -- food for thought and discussion.
Have three evaluation buttons focussed on : i) the post's idea -- was
this an useful insight or information, ii) the post's supporting
evidence and logic -- that is, is the insight or information credible,
based in reality -- or some bs spinning, iii) the poster -- do you
generally like to read the poster.
Scores could be positive or negative. A zero for "idea" evaluations
means ho hum. A negative for an "evidence" post would mean -- bad
logic, incorrect information. A zero would be "normal". A positive
would highlight the strong logic and and cites of evidence.
In addition to a numeric score, an evaluator could also submit
comments -- such as why the post is illogical and factually wrong, or
why the poster is a chronic liar and low-life. And the inverse. This
would move such discussions to secondary threads devoted just to this,
and the main thread would be devoted to discussion of ideas.
If a poster posts "evidence" or "poster" critiques in the main thread,
a fourth button could be pushed "miscategorization" of post (similar
to Craig's list).
Each poster would have a clickable "profile" containing key summaries
of their posts and evaluations, links to their posts and evaluations
-- both numeric and verbal.
Type II "evidence" and Type III "poster" evaluation posts could also
have the same four buttons -- so the value of these evaluations could
also be rated
Scores for all four categories: ideas, evidence/logic, poster,
miscategorizations. (The amount and percentage of mis-characterized
posts (if limits are reached some restriction would be placed on them))
Above scores would be reported i) raw -- as is, and ii) weighted by
the scores of the evaluators. For example, the logic evaluations made
by a poster who consistently recieves high scores for evidence and
logic would have a higher weight applied to it. And vice versa. A
poster who has a low "poster" evaluation, would have a low weight
applied to their evaluations of other posters.
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