wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> <snip>
> And why do
> > TMer descriptions of CC, GC or UC seldom venture beyond what
> they've
> > been told? Was this meant to be a built-in test in and of itself?
> <snip>
>
> Although I've never heard "officially", yeah, I think the
> definitions of CC, GC and UC have been misintepreted in one
> fundamental way, and that is that there is a clean cut progression
> from established CC, then to established GC and then to established
> UC. And that each of them constitute an enlightened state in and of
> themselves.
>
> And this gets back to the thing Mahesh said about the teacher
> speaking from his POV or state of consciousness (would that be
> SOC??), and his teachings being interpreted by the students'
> consciousness...
>
> There is a super-state which encompasses all of the CC, GC and UC,
> which some refer to Brahman, but which I'll call Tiddly-Winks, and
> this Tiddly-Winks is the fulfillment of CC, GC, and UC, none of
> which are an end state, but contain a fundamental and necessary
> component of Tiddly-Winks.
>
> So the seeker can make the mistake of attempting to sustain and
make
> permanent the states of CC, silence and activity experienced
> together, GC, seeing the finest relative phenomenon as a result of
> sense refinement, and UC, unity vs relativity predominating the
> view, when in fact the fulfillment of each comes about only when we
> achieve Tiddly-Winks.
>
> So looking backwards in a sense, having already achieved Tiddly-
> Winks, a Seer may cognize the relative steps, the foundational
> accomplishments, those of CC, GC, and UC, that the seeker must
> necessarily attain in order to sustain the state of Tiddly-Winks.
>
> The seeker instead hears these, and having gained a glimpse of one
> or many of the hallmarks of each of these states, may mistake the
> relative achievement of CC or GC or UC as the goal, instead of the
> proper action of not taking such experiences too seriously and
> instead remaning focused on the true goal of Tiddly-Winks.
>
Tiddly-winks isn't an end-state either, you know. Always room more...
tiddlies? winks?
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