--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@>
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@>
wrote:
> > > > Somehow he (like many pro-Vietnam people did) has
> > > > misconstrued our discussion as being anti-vet.
> > <snip>
> >
> > > The whole myth of 'honor the fallen dead' from all
> > > these wars is a way to NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR
> > > FIGHTING THE WARS. The problem's always with the
> > > 'leaders,' who start them. Well, duh...the problem's
> > > with the people who agree to fight them.
> >
> > In other words, the discussion (at least, Barry's
> > side of it) was indeed anti-vet, and new_morning
> > hasn't misconstrued a thing.
>
> I should have said "The problem's with the people
> who agree to fight them and pay for them." If you
> pay taxes in the United States, YOU are responsible
> for the war in Iraq.

In other words, the 'honor the fallen dead'
thang is just an extension of the German
"Ve ver just followink orders" excuse for
not owning up to their part in WWII. If you
praise the soldiers who said YES to an
insane war, and absolve them of any respon-
sibility for that war because they were just
being noble and doing what they were told by
their "bad leaders," then the people who sat
by quietly and paid their taxes and *enabled*
the war started by those "bad leaders" also
share no responisibility for it.

War is a kind of codependency. Every time you
say YES to some leader who wants a war and
agree to go fight it or agree to pay for it,
you are *assisting* that leader in perpetuating
war. As I said, there will always be leaders
who want war; in the long run, the only thing
that will stop them is people saying NO -- both
to fighting the wars and to paying for them.







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