--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- authfriend wrote:
> >
> > the TMO concepts of enlightened leadership, on the
> > one hand, and leadership that reflects the
> > consciousness of the people, on the other hand,
> > don't seem to mesh very well.  In other words,
> > they can't both be true.
>
> I feel a little foolish to admit I'd never noticed this
> conflict before. It's funny! Maybe, in the TMO worldview,
> enlightened people are liberated from ties to
> collective consciousness, just as they're liberated
> in the sense of no longer having their consciousness
> bound in ignorance of its true nature.
>
> Still, that doesn't help with governance, because one
> cannot simply order people to do what they're not
> really committed to doing. (Stalin had ways to make
> it work, and Maharishi seems to have some success,
> but they're special cases.) So an enlightened leader
> might say, "Let's forgive the terrorists," but the people
> would say, "Screw that, I want blood." And the enlightened
> leader would have a problem.
>
> I had a conversation about this topic of orders versus
> persuasion with an Army major in my acquaintance.
> I said, "It seems to me that in the Army, of all places,
> you could just say, 'Do this,' and it would get done."
>
> He said, "Well, you could, but officers who work that
> way don't advance very far." He said subordinates will
> only do the minimum required to comply with the order,
> which isn't enough for real success in any endeavor
> short of maybe digging a latrine.
>

Or they could do what Krishna advised Arjuna to do. Forgive them, then
kill them.

JohnY






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