>" So assuming that the siddhis are possible, and have something to do with enlightenment, > why do you assume that ANYONE alive can doe them? Are you under the impression that > there are fully enlightened people alive right now?"
I don't think we share the same assumptions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > Another wrinkle: what exactly does "able to do > > > the siddhis" actually mean in the context of > > > Unity consciousness? Does it really mean "on > > > demand"? > > > > This ends up in the broader question of free will and determinism in > > general in any state of consciousness. Nice point about the paradox. > > > > I recognize, and others have pointed out, that MMY is unique in his > > perspective of siddhis. Many other teachers claim they are > > impediments to growth, or at lest distractions. But in his system > > they serve a much more interesting role for me. They are indications > > that one has gained certain masteries over the laws of nature. I > > think they are important to distinguish "higher" states from just a > > flowery description of what ordinary, aware people are walking around > > in every day. Since he does demonstrate siddhis at their incomplete > > hopping level, I can't see why he would not show the real deal. I > > think it was commendable of him to use the performance of siddhis as > > tests of consciousness. It gives a falsifiable standard. > > > > Sometimes I think that it is the lower states of consciousness that we > > are forgetting about. What I mean by this is that it is possible that > > the rishis were dealing with a population so ignorant that our modern > > awareness is the enlightened state. I think any of our awarenesses > > could be described in the flowery language of the states of > > consciousness if we cared to see it that way. The only disctinciton > > we can put our finger on is the performance of supernormal abilities. > > Otherwise maybe we all have the siddhis and nature has not needed us > > to show them? > > > > > > > > So assuming that the siddhis are possible, and have something to do with enlightenment, > why do you assume that ANYONE alive can doe them? Are you under the impression that > there are fully enlightened people alive right now? > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
