--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> Jim:
> > If he is enlightened, then what nature wants and what he does are 
> > the same thing; indistinguishable. 
> Me:  As a spokesperson for the lower states of consciousness I also
> want to point out that "Nature not wanting to demonstrate" and "not
> being able to demonstrate" are identical positions as far as a proof
> system.  That distinction presupposes to much when it comes to claims
> of unique abilities.

Sorry, I've lost the original intent of this discussion. Suffice it to 
say that in my experience, external proof of anything has not been as 
important a factor as the verification of my own abilities. Someone 
once told me that to rely on external phenomena will drive you crazy. 
Which I tend to agree with.

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