On Jun 14, 2006, at 10:56 PM, coshlnx wrote:

--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

wrote:



--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 

wrote:


However, there could be a good deal of semantic

ambiguity here, in light of how MMY defines Unity

consciousness.


In other words: Does he have the ability to want to

do siddhis on demand, independently of what nature

"wants"?



If he is enlightened, then what nature wants and what he does are 

the same thing; indistinguishable.



This is speculation, not a trace of evidence for it. Equally 

speculative but not as much based on flawed authorities like MMY 

would be the statement that among the unenlightened, and the E'd, 

there are varying degrees of "what nature wants". In addition, there 

is much concrete evidence that the E'd can/do perform acts contrary 

to nature: say, molesting underage females. In addition, in the realm 

of economics, about the most we can say is that economics is 

inherently an evolutionary process; and in evolution there is a great 

deal of "trying out" things resulting in a vastic heuristic interplay 

of forces.  Even saying "what nature wants" is presumptuous 

tantamount to a tautology.  In essence, in view of the unscientific 

character of such claims as to a. not E'd - problematic but b. E'd 

OK, everything is supported by nature; this is a typical MMY urban 

myth.  I think it's high time - in the spirit of Sam Harris - to at 

least use a modicum of logic, if not a strong dose of scientific 

evidence.  Please, no "MMY said so" - therefore it must be true!. 


But we can still stay Quantum Neo-vedism said so and push Hagelin to the front, can't we?

What the bleep?

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