--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Great points. Thanks for taking the time. I will take a little time > to make sure I let them sink in. > > I can't resist this one to start: > > The irony is that if what you're calling the "group 'I'" > > is in fact the case, it means you are infinitely more > > than just the currently living bodymind called "Curtis." > > From that perspective, what you "love most about being > > alive" is absurdly limited. > > Since I handed over my eternal soul at the crossroads for a few > guitar licks I may be stuck with my limits!
Maybe there are some more licks still out there? > This notion doesn't *reduce* what you love most about > > being alive; it *expands* it beyond any limitation. > > All you have to give up is the limitations! > > Expansion beyond limitations seemed so inspiring to me at one time. > Now the words leave me cold. I know it will sound like MMY's "My > hut, my hut", but the joy of my life all comes from the details and > limitations. Do you relate to this more as a concept or is it tied > to the expansive sense of euphoria in the program for you? I can > remember it in both contexts. Both, as you remember it, and more. What appeals to me is the expanded *range of choice*. Working with details and within limitations is one of the choices; the ability to do that doesn't get withdrawn. But you can set the limitations wherever you want to, or drop them altogether if you feel like doing that. You aren't limited to one set of limitations, in other words, nor are you limited as to how far you can go in exploring one particular set. This is so abstract it's hard to get across, but do you remember I said my experience of development of consciousness was one of increasing transparency? Part of that is that limitations become transparent. They're still there, but they don't block what's beyond them. > Funny how something that seemed so > overwhelmingly powerful and important at the time has vanished as a > value in my life. I can't resist suggesting that perhaps the concept that seemed so powerful and important *was itself limited* as it existed in your mind at the time, and that at a certain point you had grown beyond what it meant to you then--but for various reasons, instead of letting the concept expand along with you, you left it where it was and went off in a different direction. To put it another way, you had a whole lot of bathwater you had to dump in terms of having been heavily involved with the organization and its dogmas and having a personal need to separate yourself from all that in order to breathe. And the baby swimming around therein was still just a baby, so underdeveloped intellectually you couldn't easily connect it to the growth you were experiencing in your life. If my concept of "expansion beyond limitations" was the same now as it was a few decades ago, I would no longer find it very appealing either. But I didn't have any bathwater to dump, because my involvement with the organization has never been more than peripheral; so I didn't have any problem taking the concept along with me and letting it grow in accord with my experience. Curious really. Consciousness really is amazing > almost any way you look at it. Ain't nothing more enthralling, by me. And the more you look at it, the more enthralling it gets. I do want to spend some time thinking > about the limits of science you presented. That is fascinating. Enjoy! Heh heh. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/iDk17A/hOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
