Both statements are accurate to my experience. Protecting the group's more controversial beliefs from outsiders did not usually cause me conflict. The end justified the means. This point was important to Andrew because he couldn't understand how a person could willfully deceive JAMA about their relationship to TM for an article. Criticisms like this one was not the reason I left the movement.
I understand why TM people were pissed at me. I don't know how else it could have gone down and been true to my experience. --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > "Well, you also made it sound as though anyone and everyone in the TMO > > was a liar as Andrew Skolnick quoted you in his JAMA article:" > > > > Are you a teacher? Is it news for you that people in the movement > > lie, especially to reporters? I was speaking about my experience. Is > > it different for you? > > So, you say that you were taught to lie and yet you also say: > > "> > My reasons for leaving TM were different from many others who left > > TM > > > and spoke about it. I was not a disgruntled member. I had > > wonderful > > > experiences and insights and had balanced my personal and > > professional > > > life when I decided to leave. I was teaching part-time and > > enjoying a > > > great real estate market, so I thought I had it all. I had the > > bucks > > > to enjoy the privileged side of TMO with its better access to MMY > > than > > > I had as a full-time member." > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > [...] > > > > So much of what you said seems to be a natural pattern of growing up > > > > with our ideas whatever they are. I suspect that I am neither > > > > uniquely flawed nor gifted in intellectual awareness, in or out of > > > > TMO. I also recognize that this group is far from TMO is so many > > > > important ways. Ways that make this group a much nicer and more > > > > interesting group to interact with. I have not been able to have a > > > > mutually respectful conversation with anyone still in the group > > > > mindset. I suspect some of the people here have similar experiences > > > > although mine may be a little more intense because I publicly spoke > > > > out against the TMO, breaking the most important "no talk" rule of any > > > > dysfunctional family! > > > > > > > > > > Well, you also made it sound as though anyone and everyone in the > > TMO was a liar as > > > Andrew Skolnick quoted you in his JAMA article: > > > > > > http://www.skeptictank.org/gs/sci603.htm > > > [...] > > > 'Ex-members say that the movement widely practices a style of > > > deception some call the "SIMS shuffle." Curtis Mailloux, a former > > > member who lives in Fairfax, Va, says the name is derived from the > > > Student International Meditation Society, one of the Maharishi's > > > front groups, where many members develop this skill. Mailloux says > > > he "left the cult" in 1989 after 15 years. As a former TM teacher > > > and chair of the TM center in Washington, DC, the largest in the > > > United States, he is one of the highest ranking members to defect. > > > > > > "I was taught to lie and to get around the pretty rules of the > > > 'unenlightened' in order to get favorable reports into the media," > > > says Maillous. "We were taught how to exploit the reporters' > > > gullibility and fascination with the exotic, especially what comes > > > from the East. We thought we weren't doing anything wrong, because > > > we were told it was often necessary to deceive the unenlightened to > > > advance our guru's plan to save the world."' > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lik1AB/fOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
