On Jun 28, 2006, at 9:46 PM, sparaig wrote:

--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <groups@> wrote:


on 6/28/06 2:04 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My question to Peter did he hear directly from any long-term disciples

that MMY accepts none of the reponsibility of

having disciples. Or is it simply baseless speculation?


There were times when Maharishi promised, both to individuals and

groups,

that he would take personal responsibility for their evolution. The best

known example was at the end of the Amherst course, summer of Œ78 or

Œ79,

when MMY was trying to talk everyone into moving to MIU. He promised

that if

they did so, he would take personal responsibility for their

evolution. He

may even have said their enlightenment.


Ok. thanks. Good point.


And to be precise, we don't know he is not fulfilling his promise --

but yea, it looks like a low probability.


Still I would not count a large group, for which he makes a mass

promise, to be direct disciples as i understand the term. Others may

interpret it differently



At least 17 true blue TMers accessible to Fred Travis in Fairfield, report non-stop 

witnessing 24/7 for months or years at a time and show consistent EEG and other 

parameters as compared to people who don't report this.



That's great: proof that dualistic mediation methods lead to dualistic state of consciousness.

Go figure.
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