--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 28, 2006, at 9:46 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> > > wrote: > >> > >> --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <groups@> wrote: > >>> > >>> on 6/28/06 2:04 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>>> My question to Peter did he hear directly from any long-term > >>>> disciples > >>>> that MMY accepts none of the reponsibility of > >>>> having disciples. Or is it simply baseless speculation? > >>>> > >>> There were times when Maharishi promised, both to individuals and > >> groups, > >>> that he would take personal responsibility for their evolution. > >>> The best > >>> known example was at the end of the Amherst course, summer of 78 or > >> 79, > >>> when MMY was trying to talk everyone into moving to MIU. He promised > >> that if > >>> they did so, he would take personal responsibility for their > >> evolution. He > >>> may even have said their enlightenment. > >> > >> Ok. thanks. Good point. > >> > >> And to be precise, we don't know he is not fulfilling his promise -- > >> but yea, it looks like a low probability. > >> > >> Still I would not count a large group, for which he makes a mass > >> promise, to be direct disciples as i understand the term. Others may > >> interpret it differently > >> > > > > At least 17 true blue TMers accessible to Fred Travis in Fairfield, > > report non-stop > > witnessing 24/7 for months or years at a time and show consistent > > EEG and other > > parameters as compared to people who don't report this. > > > That's great: proof that dualistic mediation methods lead to > dualistic state of consciousness. > > Go figure. >
Sometimes the boundries of dualism can get quite fuzzy: http://www.brainresearchinstitute.org/research/ConcCog2004.pdf Psychological and physiological characteristics of a proposed object-referral/self-referral continuum of self-awareness Frederick Travis,a,* Alarik Arenander,a,b and David DuBoisc Long-term Group: Self is independent of and underlying thoughts, feelings, and actions L1: We ordinarily think my self as this age; this color of hair; these hobbies . . . my experience is that my Self is a lot larger than that. It ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
