--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jun 30, 2006, at 10:34 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> on 6/29/06 8:19 PM, off_world_beings at
> >>>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> You got nothing. You are just looking for attention, but will
> >>>>
> > find
> >
> >>>> something to make up that is totally unsubstantiated and
> >>>> uncorroborated by the majority of the people who were there.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> That's true, because the majority who were there weren't in the
> >>> inner circle. But those in the inner circle soon learned that
> >>>
> > MMY's
> >
> >>> private and public personae were quite different. This
> >>>
> > discovery
> >
> >>> caused the majority of MMY's personal secretaries to leave the
> >>> movement. __
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for mentioning this, I think this important point is not
> >> mentioned enough. As word leaked out about his duplicity it
> >>
> > helped
> >
> >> many make the decision to split. Once you knew the public side
> >>
> > was
> >
> >> essentially a front, a facade and M. a poseur, you realize it's
> >>
> > just
> >
> >> a business. That's one of the reasons many believe the words
> >> attributed to Guru Dev when he said 'go to the mountains to
> >>
> > meditate,
> >
> >> you'll never be good at anything other than making money.' (huge
> >> paraphrase).
> >>
> >> "Mahesh has been interested in power, in the accumulation of
> >>
> > money,
> >
> >> and in women. Why does he live in a big house, own helicopters,
> >> airplanes, etc? Why does he spend most of his time involved in
> >> business planning about making money? It is because he is a
> >> businessman who has the desires that other wealthy businessmen
> >>
> > have.
> >
> >> His spiritual front is his scam and the way he gets people to
> >>
> > give
> >
> >> him their time and money." --Earl Kaplan
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Could be, and I don't post to support or reject your position. 
The
> > one major element that seems inconsistent in all of this talk 
about
> > Maharishi being a sham and a scam and a poseur, is, if this is 
all
> > true, why does Bramananda Saraswati [Guru Dev] continue to make
> > himself available, through Maharishi's teaching?
> >
> > Since He does, both through the puja, and also direct 
experience, it
> > would seem that He is tacitly supporting Maharishi. Or at the 
very
> > least blessing the knowledge Maharishi is spreading.
> 
> IIRC it was Earl who actually went to India and spoke to old 
students  
> of Guru Dev's who were still living. They said that Mahesh had 
stolen  
> GD's ruby Sri Yantra and had found out how to activate the 
elemental/ 
> material bhupur--the outermost chakra of the yantra for material 
gain  
> and worldly power.
> 
> Of course in order to use that power for material gain, it would 
be  
> best to have *physical* object, like a yantra to use.
> 
> That's one theory. :-) (It'd also make a great Indiana Jones 
sequel!).
>

It *would* make a great sequel-- But it doesn't address my 
question...I wasn't speaking about Maharishi's material wealth, more 
Guru Dev's support of Maharishi's knowledge, and the ability to 
directly contact Him (Guru Dev) through as a result of that 
knowledge.





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