--- In [email protected], gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > on 6/29/06 8:19 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > >> You got nothing. You are just looking for attention, but will > find > > >> something to make up that is totally unsubstantiated and > > >> uncorroborated by the majority of the people who were there. > > >> > > > That's true, because the majority who were there weren't in the > > > inner circle. But those in the inner circle soon learned that > MMY's > > > private and public personae were quite different. This discovery > > > caused the majority of MMY's personal secretaries to leave the > > > movement. __ > > > > > > Thanks for mentioning this, I think this important point is not > > mentioned enough. As word leaked out about his duplicity it helped > > many make the decision to split. Once you knew the public side was > > essentially a front, a facade and M. a poseur, you realize it's > just > > a business. That's one of the reasons many believe the words > > attributed to Guru Dev when he said 'go to the mountains to > meditate, > > you'll never be good at anything other than making money.' (huge > > paraphrase). > > > > "Mahesh has been interested in power, in the accumulation of > money, > > and in women. Why does he live in a big house, own helicopters, > > airplanes, etc? Why does he spend most of his time involved in > > business planning about making money? It is because he is a > > businessman who has the desires that other wealthy businessmen > have. > > His spiritual front is his scam and the way he gets people to give > > him their time and money." --Earl Kaplan > > > > Accurate insight, in my opinion, Vaj. Ture believers will always find > reason to believe. Like the Jehovah's witnesses, the more you point > out the flaws, the stronger they grow. When they come to the door I > just tell them I'm a reformed Druid (we're allowed to worship > bushes). It's an old M*A*S*H* joke. > > If you read Joyce Collin-Smith's "Call No Man Master" or Paul Mason's > Mahesh bio, it's perfectly clear that Mahesh is all about getting > himself worshiped. > > I clearly remember the newspaper stories: he declared his mission > failure and said he was retiring to the Himilayas. It was AFTER this > that the Beatles made him famous and he bounced back with a vengence. > First he created huge numbers of TM teachers (Mallorca, Fiuggi, La > Antilla). He coo'd like a dove cooing to another dove from whom it > hoped to borrow money (favourite Wodehouse quote) at the peak of > rounding: no one can love you like I can, you are going to save the > whole world, get the money from an auntie, from your gran .... > > Mahesh could be a real slime ball. And, what did he teach on his 6- > month courses? Stuff borrowed and re-worked from Yogananda. I did all > of the Yogananda lessons after TM, out of curiosity more than > anything else. There were the A of E techniques and contacts provided > more information about the 6-month courses. Just more of Yogananda > with his lovely spin on it. > > And the 'sidhi' stuff? He had no idea, literally. He sent people to > India to find yogis; he got obscure translations, he fiddled and > fumed and tinkered ... but what worked best was the cooing, get 'em > all spacey and suggest hopping. How simple; he'd always known that > people would pay him for what they expected to get in return and that > he never had any trouble convincing them it was their fault it wasn't > working. He still bitches about too much negativity, too little work > being done by others, yadda, yadda. > > The "real" Mahesh is someone completely imaginary for most people. > But, yes, there was an inner circle, people who liked what they were > doing and since he was providing room and board and the company of > each other, they didn't particularly object doing it for him. But > behind closed doors, the discussion shifted to how completely bonkers > Mahesh was. Stripped of his public facade, he was a nutter with > charm, intelligence, charisma by the sackful. But his ideas and his > wast wedic wevelations were total kaka. It was all provided by people > who not only told him what the Sanskrit said, but what the Sanskrit > meant. > > It was all spindoctoring based on the work of others. > > Do nothing, accomplish everything took on a whole new meaning. YOU > bust your balls and I take all the credit. > > Well, that was fun. Nothing new, but fun. Those who see, see. Those > who don't see, still see. A finger points at the moon. Some will > always and only consider the finger. > > Happy trails. There are better things to do than worry about some Jim > Jones type dressed in sheets and wearing makeup. > IMO you should probably be letting go of all of this stuff, since you've been weighed down with it for decades now. I am not saying that you shouldn't share it, as that can be very therapeutic, or that it isn't true for you, but as someone who has had experience burning in a fire of his own making, the best result of your sharing these stories would be for you to be done with them and get on with the many talents I am sure you possess.
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